Τρίτη 28 Φεβρουαρίου 2012


  • Thanks for the post. I applaud your bravery and will post the video on. Greece is still at the forefront of egalitarianism I see.

  • So powerful. Each of the four times I have seen this video I have cried. God bless these beautiful children of Greece, the birthplace of Democracy.

  • What a bunch of fucking retards, with greeks being the most retarded. Blah blah, look at me, I didn't pay for a train ride and possibly everything else.

    IF YOU DON'T PAY FOR STUFF YOU USE, THE ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE. GREEDY, LAZY SHEEPLE.

    I wonder what these spoiled teens can do to survive in this "resource based economy"? They can only shit around the internet, mooch off their parents/gov and not work worth a shit.



  • @Dominus357 No offense but I think you've completely missed the point! Sheeple? SHEEPLE do as they are told by their loving gov, SHEEPLE make sure the other sheep stay in line, SHEEPLE think the establishment, the status quo must be upheld at all costs. SHEEPLE ignorantly judge and label those that speak the truth and go against the grain. Hoping that you will soon wake up and really try understand what DEBT SLAVERY is. Alternative news sources is a good start in that journey!

  • who pays the earth for the resources mined ?

    How much does the earth charge per tonne ?

    What does the earth do with the money that is supposedly backed by gold (which belongs to the earth to begin with).

    Maybe earth will buy a new car, and a home along the coast of the milky way.

  • It should be not paying any taxes at all. The money is going to repress you.

  • Brilliant and glad to share....WE have to make a choice. WE are either ALL ICELAND or ALL ARGENTINA...

    Iceland has already recovered by letting their banks fail.

    Argentina had to take a very long time. 90 percent of their population went into extreme poverty after Citigroup bilked the national retirement funds....and then the people paid.

    WE CHOOSE...either be Argentina or BE ICELAND...

    It's time for JUBILEE...

  • Is this the point in history when most of the people of our planet earth take a stand for their life, liberty, equality?

  • (R)esource (B)ased (E)conomy ftw!

    Nice to see grass-roots uprising people break through into Newness.

    watch zeigeist films

  • Great, so you dodged paying for a train ride and explained nothing about what the hell it is you want to do with society. But hey at least the music was pumping real hard! Way to go.

  • @EvilTwinsen I agree, knowing what we don't want is not enough. We need to have answers and solutions and proposals to answer our need for emerging new socio-economic paradigm. A Resource Based Economy (RBE) as proposed and advocated by the zeitgeistmovement and venus project both explains and says what it wants to do.

    I agree the music is uplifting!

  • @livingdaylight Yeah, I know Zeitgeist and agree with most of their ideas (Living in Israel I can't agree with the "just don't join the army" part, I think it's easy to say for people who don't live near immediate danger). Either way I think being a straight out anarchist is not gonna take us anywhere but to their prison cells. There has to be a more sophisticated, non violent way to overthrow capitalism. And yes, the actions in this movie ARE violent.

  • This protest is good, but if we want real change need complementary currencies that are designed with different goals at mind. The point is not to stop working for Euros, but to start working for different kinds of compensation. Please read my article about "New Options In Dealing With The Euro Crisis" en.richard-heider.de/wp/?p=7

  • This is the best peaceful protest action I have seen so far...It has made my day...people have to find ways of fighting back ..non violent protest rocks...very cool...

  • So is this a Soros movement also (like the useless ows fiasco)?

    I have to laugh when idiots blame capitalism for their problems (I am nowhere near rich either) and want us to go back to the dark ages to be "free". It isn't capitalism that we have but cronyism, facism, etc. We need capitalism to survive. Some people would rather let someone tell them what to believe than go and learn for themselves. Soros will move to have it all fall down very soon and all idiots will fall for it.

  • I dont pay the bank for so called "debts"...why the hell should i "pay them back" for so called money they gave me...when the money never existed in the first place....(Fiat currency)

    If it did exist...and they can prove it did rather than numbers typed into a screen..that was backed on nothing....il pay them back....or when they admit to raping and pillaging money out of my whole family and everyone I ever met....

  • THE CORPORATIONS AND THE USURY OF BANKS MUST END IN 2012 ,,,,,,, NEW FREE ENERGY AND GOODS, AND NATURAL FOOD MUST be available and the new robots who will do the hard work, meanwhile human advance in areas concerning being human and civilian peacefully people

  • So in this non-pay movement, who pays for roads? What about police, firefighters, and EMS? Who's paying for all the damage the people in this video caused to those machines? This is more responsible than riots, yes, but it sounds like a bunch of you got together and just decided to not pay for things. I doubt not paying for the subway is going to save your nation.

  • @Team503 who pays for? money actually is just paper,. who MAKES roads,.. people make the world not money.

  • @Synetearis Fair point. So, are you going to go fix a pothole now? Mine the metals yourself? What about carrying out the garbage or sweeping the floor?

    Barter economies halt progress - I don't want to have to trade my chicken for a duck and the duck for a shoe so I can trade you the shoe for a belt. Money may be PHYSICALLY just paper, but it REALLY is a representation of human effort. We use a paper standard for convenience.

  • @Team503 No however i do work with elderly and dissabled,.

  • @Synetearis me too

    

  • @switchest26 :) peace

  • @Synetearis the question I ask, is why are there pot holes that need to be fixed or garbage to be carried? It is always a comfort and convenience until they take it away from you or demand payment in the form of your freedom and spirit. Comfort and convenience is not always a sign of progress. I would say i could be a sign of decay.

  • @dwk49 aah we have a discussion so it seems ;) (j/k i come in peace ;) ) you said 'are you' gonna fix,.. thats a different formulation,. but yes,. i have a job in which i serve people,. and yes.,, if i'd live in a community where certain things are expected to be done for the purpose of servicing the community,. i would,. not everybody there motive is to just earn money, for me it always has been a mean, not a purpose,. as for comfort and convinience,.. i totally agree with you.

  • @dwk49 So you don't want modern transportation? What technological level should we regress to so that you can feel comfortable with "the system"? Howabout horses and carts, rolling back the clock about 200 years ago?

  • @Team503 and i agree,. but the way money is utilized is wrong,. the 99 vs 1 % story,.. my point is not in an exact explanation of how it should be,. but remember,. ALWAYS, a house is made out stone not paper,.. and for sec maybe you should think about what you (in general counts for me aswell) really know,.. i know nothing about how to survive just utilizing my physicle and mother nature,.. now thats scary,.. and what if distribution would stop one day? we are not as smart as we think..

  • @Team503

    quite the assumption as barter economies have barely existed in human history yet the most common type of economy was mutual aid economies. Also, the industrial revolution already passed we live in the digital era.

    Oh btw roughly 70% of all western labor (skilled and unskilled) works in "service", 16-18% work in manufacturing, and the rest about 2% in agriculture.

    So its like this

    70% -of us make lattes and office work

    18%- actually still do manual labor jobs

    2% - feed us

  • @sacrebeat I agree, barter is so yester-Millenium... Moneyless society ftw!

  • @sacrebeat It's not an assumption. I even explained the logic IN MY COMMENT. Working in "service" as you define it is too broad. What percentage are baristas and what percentage are writers, filmmakers, artists, or musicians? How many just file papers and how many design microprocessors? Slight difference there. As you point out, we live in the information age.

    Statistics don't lie - but they can be made VERY misleading, as you have done here.

  • Reclaim infinity.

  • This is proper stuff. Way halal.

  • IN PORTUGUESE : EU NÃO PAGO!

  • Where is the UK faction? and when can I join!

  • @Nuketime201 the UK faction? the youth of Europe set up "I DONT PAY" and the UK youth went looting

    Our country is fucked mate

  • Fuck cell phone plans too

  • why the ad?

  • Who paid for there leaflets and flags?

  • THERE YOU GO ! THE HEROES OF TODAY !

    WELL DONE GUYS , MORE SLOGANS IN ENGLISH IN THOSE YELLOW FLAGS WOULD BE NEEDED GUYS , FOR THE WORLD IS WATCHING YOU .

    AND YOU DO DAMN RIGHT TO FILM / RECORD THE MANIFESTATIONS ...YOU NEVER KNOW .

    I THINK THE WORD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS MICHAEL TELLINGER`S

    CONTRIBUTIONISM , MEANING PEOPLE MAKE JUST THE NECESSARY EFFORTS IN ORDER TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES FOR THEM .

    GOOD LUCK !

  • Everyone should stop working and take an Amish vacation for 1-2 months. Do very little spending and use bartering, gold, and silver. Let the rich run & hide, catch their own food and drink out of their swimming pools.

  • Hightreewalker you are BANG on correct. If we refuse to accept we also must fill in the gaps for what we can.

  • @mbonter1- the best system from perpetuating Empire is indeed capitalism, which is also the best system for ensuring that there are 'have' and 'have nots', ensuring that large portions of the global population will remain in poverty because they don't have 'exploitable' resources (other than producing children for the sex slave industry, or cheap labour for the fat cat West to 'capitalise' on)- blah. Double Blah. Let's shift the paradigm completely before 'capitalism' destroys everything.

  • Stop using banker issued money!! The banker issued money is accruing massive interest across the globe and is the vampire squid strangling entire countries.

    END THE BANKER OCCUPATION !!

  • the entire world is waking up, this is a beautiful time to be alive!

    ELLAS!!!

    BE LOVE

    SPREAD LOVE

    ONE LOVE!!!

  • HAHAHA YES!!! Refuse to give the governments your GDP. Don't let corrupt people play with your potential profits and put debt on your children's back!!! Keep it up make an example all of us can hopefully follow. Big ups from U.S.A. Ron Paul!

  • Not often Youtube movies make me cry. This one did. Proud of Greece!

  • it's finally starting.....

    ~regards from Indonesia~

  • It is very much North vs. South. If it were people vs. elite then the people of Greece should make the elite of Greece pay up. Instead it is the people for North Europe who are forced to pay the Elite of South Europe.

    There is nothing wrong with the way southern Europeans live. It just an illusion that they will abide to the same rules and that their economy is in any way comparable to the Northern economy. Split South and North, both will be better off

  • it should be free at least for people who work part time or minimum wage, if the rich want us to work for cheap for them at least they can make sure we can get to work ! you making like $1000 after taxes $120 for a monthly pass is just insane... BUT this also means that public transport workers should get paid around minimum wage as they not working for profit but the good of the community... you cant have one with out the other, money does not grow on trees

  • hey dumbasses, it is not north europe vs south europe, its the people vs the elite. edeucate yourself idiots.

  • shared it down the line <3

    

  • @philthy122 You are sooo right. The video shows the people of Greece, Spain that do not pay for services provided. And that is the problem all along. They pride themselves that they beat the system by not paying for anything. Collecting pensions for dead relatives. Leaving their house unfinished so they dont pay tax.

    Meanwhile Northern Europe foots the multi-Billion bill for this! Well, let me tell you, WE in Northern Europe will stop paying. Go get 'your' money from Onassis, not us!

  • @scsirob northern europe had been introducing austerity measures, cutting on subsidies and programs been in place for decades so greeks can stop paying for their train tickets. so lame.

  • watch?v=A-8KmaujoyA

  • zeitgeistperu com

  • just curios: how many days the transport will function, if nobody pay a cent

  • @ingserban... and how long will humanity and the entire planet survive if we continue living under corporations rules that make 1% of the world's population immensely rich while the rest 99% is either struggling day by day or simply starving? Not mentioning pollution, extinction, over warming etc etc

  • I bet you paid for those flags

  • Support from Holland, keep up this good work

  • If only Americans had the balls to stand up for what they believed in like you do. Love from USA

  • Viva sortition and real democracy! Fight oligarchy!

  • Support from Australia keep up the fight greece is an inspiration to the world

  • @vitale2020 bring it to aus!

  • MOVEMENT DONT PAY PLZ.. DO NOT EVER GET INVOLVED W/ OCCUPY/ANOM/VENUS /ZEITGEIST THEY ARE ALL USA GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED OPPOSITION!!!

  • If the GOVt Can PRINT MONEY_ Why would you pay taxes??? There is no more logic there!!!

  • @adj168 Fuckin 'A

  • I saw some cute young Greek women in the video. But what are they going to do for a living, if nobody is paying them? Unicorns?

  • A world without money sounds like music to my ears, rather I would like to see a world without debt. That's the real killer.

  • I love it

  • this is a good beginning.

  • @themillionchildren imagine where we will be at the end of this year. i hope all over people are free

  • The bigger view: Not paying also means: Not asking. So for example working for free and helping everyone that needs your help (and others who help you), so not waiting for all the others and be passive. Changing the world does not mean stopping the world. It's a process which means very big responsibility. Let's make it a better place for EVERYONE and EVERY BEING

  • @Hightreewalker i love you

  • If we all really want we CAN (re)built heaven. Why not just do it. No killing, no greed above love, no poison, no censorship, no fear

  • 10 f...g banksters and politicians have already been here.

    People need to take their counties back !!!

  • Argentina

  • @ Overlogg

    No my friend, even silver and gold are NOT the solution cuz it will be the rich people who can buy the most so everything stays by the same! We have to create a whole new society where people do things for each. For ex: you give me bread, i give you eggs. NO money, NO gold only honest exchange so nobody can PROFIT! NO government only local policy where people can vote by raising their hands so THEY can decide whatever happens in THEIR neighbourhood.

  • @MrHypnos27 Ummm you're suggesting a barter system? Might have worked we'll in a small village in the 900's. In today's society how would such a system be used to pay for hospitals, teachers, universities, roads, movies, etc. Also how would you deal with an outing where you needed multiple purchases....would you take a wheel barrow full of eggs to barter for all the good you need.

    Secondly 'local policy' ,as you suggest, is call Feudalism....a great system if you want live in the Dark-ages

  • Whats the name of the song??

  • !!!!!!!STOP DOING AND PAYING FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!

    LAWFUL REBELLION........ SAY NO NO NO NO!!!!!

    Stock up on water,food and stick together and be strong.

  • Money is evil!

  • I hope we are heading towards a world like in Star Trek, there was no money on Earth in Star Trek.

  • please send all of your worthless paper money to me - pm for address tyvmia

  • Silver and gold are not much better than fiat money. The value of gold and silver can also change since both are finite resources and you have to share it with the ever increasing population.

    The only real solution is The Venus Project.

  • @snaileri LOL just call it communism

  • I wont pay!! You all have my support

    TheDman216

    Northern New Hampshire

    USA

  • @wethejewsdid911blahblahblah..­....and when you pull out I'll shit in your mouth ....scumbag

  • Yay, show how right you are by becoming the thieving monster your are supposedly fighting.

    There is no such thing as a free lunch.

  • GIve 'em what they want. "I, John H. Doe, promise to pay _____ to ______ for settlement of account ____ this Feb. 22, 2012 /s/ jhd" --- there, now a banker/judge can turn that into debt notes and we don't have to fall into anarchy.

  • we JEWS will sodomize you filthy cattle soon hehehehehehehheeehe

  • @wejewsdid911HAHAHA89 You filthy jew if the world ever wakes up to your greedy little hands someone gonna shove a rifle barrel up your ass and pull the trigger. LOL to bad Hitler didn't finish the job in WW2.

  • @wejewsdid911HAHAHA89 lol Rev. 3:9 biatch :p

  • We need a double Old Testament Jubilee from the bankers! All debt is forgiven and the wealth of the Banksters is given back to the people!

  • Viva la The Venus Project!!!

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  • Gov't shouldn't be offering that stuff anyway, they should just shut it down.

  • I HEREBY DECREE THIS HERE AND NOW IN THE U.S.A....DO NOT PAY THE USURY, DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR OWN SERVITUDE, DO NOT PAY ANOTHER CENT TO BACK YOUR OWN IMPRISONMENT. DO NOT SUPPORT THAT WHICH YOU KNOW IS CORRUPT LEST YOU PROPIGATE THE VERY ILLS YOU'D AVOID...CYCLE AFTER CYCLE...

  • Hell yeh thats right don't pay fuckin shit!

  • Go for the revolution . Get your freedom back from the bankers and politiciens .

  • They should refuse to pay income taxes. That would take down the government really fast.

  • @ArmednSafe Greeks have been avoiding the payment of income taxes for years; that's why their govt has been borrowing a shit load of money for the past decade, so that it can 'afford' high wages for govt workers, retirement at 50, and basically pretending it is a prosperous country with borrowed money. Just like living the high life off credit cards, fun for a while but eventually the bill will arrive.

    Greece and its people are getting everything they deserve.

  • @philthy122 Do you really know what is happening to Greece?No....Because you don't live here.You are only informed by the media and their propaganda.If you lived in Greece you would have friends with Masters,PHDs that couldnt find a dignified job,others that worked minimum 10 hours..And guess what their salary is half yours .We dont care how the media "see" the Greeks because we know what is the truth,we still believe and fight from liberty fraternity equality.

  • @Hlektra84 So by your logic anything that you don't directly observe or experience is propaganda and likely to be a lie. What a fucken idiot.

    Any wonder Greece is dragging the euro the way of the Drachma; which was little more than colourful no absorbent toilet paper.

    The euro-zone need to kick out debt ridden countries; and if they had any sense in the central european govt, Greece would have been kicked out three years ago.

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  • @philthy122 lol you must read a litle bit b4 you open your mouth..lol you know nothing...People like you must not Vote on elections you have no judge ..Useless people

  • @Sol4Dare And your understanding of even the most basic economics must be non-existent if you think a country can provide any form of social services based on the Greek model or by the ideals if the 'Don't Pay' retards.

  • @philthy122 the dont pay movement is not a system , and not a proposal for any kind of social services. Watch learn read dont just open your tv..to know half of the truth is worse than knowing nothing

  • @Hlektra84 I don't own a TV....and you clearly done get it; don't pay for govt provided services and you don't get them....borrow massive amounts of money to make up for the lack of taxes collected in a country and you get Greece. Its not hard.

  • @ArmednSafe

    Exactly my friend the faster the world stops paying tax the faster we are in control

  • We can do it. I just had an argument with someone last night telling me its not worth trying. But we can do it. They have tried many times to take over and it has always failed and it will fail again. And maybe this time we will actually remove the cancer in our world govts instead of hiding it and letting it fester for 100 yrs...

  • @markrod420 100 yrs in America, longer elsewhere. (probably longer here too. im just talking federal reserve time really)

  • Yeah I wish I didnt have to give the government one red cent and I live in Canada

  • The problem has always been NOT PAYING. You're not doing anything new. Other than dragging yourselves down further into the abyss.

  • @trick29420 So if everyone just gives all their money to the government everything will be wonderful? Let me guess, you want to tax the rich($250,000 a year income) to make up for all the bad in the world?

  • @ARBuilder1776 haha. Quite the opposite actually. This just shows the entitlement mentality of the Greek people. That they can take, and use, and consume, and 'not pay for it'. Well, that's what got you in this crisis in the first place. Consuming, and handing out, without producing.

  • @trick29420 That is the bankster line - that Greeks are all just lazy people with entitlement issues. But the Greeks didn't get themselves into this mess - it is all a contrived disaster dumped on them by banksters. All of that debt was forced on them - their "social programs" didn't create the debt. The whole toxic debt load originated in German financial institutions, and was offloaded onto Greece. The whole debacle is manufactured, but Greeks are being made to pay for it.

  • @monkeyweather No one was forced to take the original loans. Greece wasn't forced to sell bonds to creditors. The Greek government may have accepted them, when the people didn't really want them, but that's what governments do. The Greek government took the money, and used it on something. I understand that the Greek people are getting royally screwed, but its because of decades of their system. They should look to Iceland as to what to do next.

  • @trick29420 You don't know shit.

  • Video and James rock this video and social Issue!!! Rise up!

  • Lol, well when they shut down the subway because no one is paying, you'll feel pretty stupid. People aren't going to operate the subway if they aren't getting paid for it. Socialism, is not the key to prosperity, but a means for disillusion.

  • DEAR friends!!! TYPE into youtube: Androids Among Us Documentary (original version)

    It is very relevant to all of this, and once people understand it, I think the revolution will spread like wildfire. I DARE all of you lovely people to watch this video and consider the implications! I spread this not to impose my views, but to help wake up my fellow humans, with LOVE and Light. <3

  • @DjHyphie sounds interesting ill check it out

  • have broke balls with these advertising on YTube!

  • awesome!!!! we must stop cooperating with the system!!!!

  • this is awesome. i think the Occupy Wall St movement needs to Occupy the Subways next!

  • Once the world will be without money. Why, because most people will have realized, and finally understand that money doesn't bring anything good. The most equitable remuneration for the fair distribution of goods among all people in the world.

  • @fredikruger Even with the collapse of money if you wanted to trade in gold, silver, still does not bring anything good. Because have to be fairly to share with each other goods, food, water, home. You want to live fairly?!

    Anyone who has no money is poor, then gold and silver, nothing will change, we can live whit no money in an equal division of goods.

  • @fredikruger Really? What are you going to use to trade with then.. sexual favors and bellybutton lint? Grab a brain and learn something about economy before you bother going on with this drivel. You're not going to get everything for nothing. The system needs to be fixed and changed back to the way it was meant to be.. it's been hijacked that's all there is to it.

  • Brilliant!Lets see this action go viral

  • Just filed my taxes yesterday and am appalled at how much I gave the Fed. I feel so ashamed that my money is helping the Military Industrial Complex kill, maim and destroy the world all for personal profit or to pay interest to Bankers. It just makes me sick... I can't think of one thing the government does for me and my family. They don't even pay for roads. No services really. The gov just takes and takes and takes and it always wants more.

  • here you'd be beaten and arrested for even trying this.

  • In portugal we are doing something similar. But we do it every day.

    for example, i make my daily dislocations to school for free. I don't pay for the subway or for the bus.

    BOYCOTT!

  • Paying makes the state more powerful and evil. Don't pay taxes, don't pay for public services. End the state!

  • All the DEBT is FAKE....

    Always has been...ALWAYS WILL BE...

    There is no MONEY...ONLY DEBT....When you finally pay off the debt, there will be NO MORE "MONEY"...as the "MONEY" never existed...

    The only money that ever existed is Gold & Silver...

    Trade your little funny pieces of paper with political figures on them for things of real value...

    while it is still accepted...in the very near future...the paper..will be WORTH LESS....

    Buy SILVER...bankrupt the BANKSTERS...

  • @overlogg If everyone swapped out their fake currency in their bank accounts and bought gold and silver these profiteering banks would be gone FOREVER in just a few weeks. Every month I move every spare penny into Gold and Silver bullion coins. In terms of fiat currency I have seen the value of my gold and silver ROCKET while the rest of the world seems to be going backwards and getting into more and more debt. Wake up people get some gold and silver. Literally take your money out of THEIR reach

  • @TheHolySpirit The Gold and Silver marketers are just manipulating ya guys!

  • @greg12145 You clearly have no idea. Look at your history. Go back say, 5,000 years. Fiat currency ALWAYS eventually returns to zero every single time and gold and silver pop back up as money. That's the point. You can't manipulate what has inherent value. If you don't agree name me one example of fiat currency (as we have right now, globally) that hasn't failed and collapsed. Just name me one. Btw, Gold shot up by $54 an OUNCE today with the news of the latest economic woes. Get out of fiat

  • @overlogg There's not enough Gold or Silver to be used as currency dipshit! It's just another manipulated vehicle to the masses! Gotta love these archoles jacking up Gold and Silver prices with the usual fear tactics; then they'll tear the carpet from underneath them when they decide.....

  • @greg12145

    Dear clueless

    Governments & Central Banks have been manipulating the price of gold and silver for 40 years now...

    They do this with paper shenanigans...which pretty much are on the verge of complete dislocation from the REAL PHYSICAL MARKET.

    You see, you can print paper gold all day long...but wen you actually source it..in your hand...well, it is not as easy to obtain, nor is it the price you see quoted in NY or London.

    Use this to your advantage....it won't LAST!

  • @overlogg It's just another manipulation vehicle....  you're a funny guy!

  • @greg12145

    Go spend some time learning about its history and the shadyness surrounding it, use it to your advantage.

    There will be no other way to preserve your wealth. The paper price can go to ZERO, it makes no difference, the lid will get blown off when supply becomes an issue, & this should start to happen, later this year.

    Add a currency meltdown & sprinkle GLOBAL INSOLVENCY to that, and your in for a massive re-valuation.

    Think about it closely & never listen to MSM shills.

  • @overlogg Gold and Silver got ya into the mess to begn with... money is just an extension of the past Gold and Silver trade.

  • @greg12145 This is where you're making a mistake. $, £, € is NOT money. It's currency and at the moment is Fiat currency. That is inherently unsustainable. It WILL collapse sooner or later whatever governments and central banks try and they know it. They'll just take what they can and pass the problem onto whoever is in charge next. Eventually the music will stop. Guaranteed. That is when you want to have something real instead of fiat. Anything real and valuable, not just gold and silver.

  • @TheHolySpirit I guess genius you missed my point.... I was stricktly talking about GOLD and SILVER (as replacements like all the bullshit marketering is telling you).... you can have anything REAL & vALUABLE and it too can simply be manipulated by the powers that be.... don't be a FOOL! Anything, absolutley ANYTHING can be devalued if they choose too do it (housing, etc). they've got you guys all spinning around artificially jacking up all these other markets values.

  • @TheHolySpirit They can manipulate anything REAL & VALUABLE too -- when they want too (that's my point.... housing, currency/monies, minerals/elements and etc.). They can CRASH INDUSTRIES when they want. They're selling you on the currency issues of the day so you genius' artificially inflate other markets (becuase they're REALLY making the money off it). What you believe as REAL & VALUABLE today can simply lose it's value years later. The alternate community is just a bus. too

  • @TheHolySpirit I've listened to Alex Jones, Max Keiser, and the lot of them selling you on the hot topics/investments of the day... they're just part of the game, engineering you towards the areas they want you to (think you understand or) invest in (as they OBVIOUSLY have vested interests in those areas). Markets/Industries like currencies can be sent crashing too (when so desired). Just another con-job! IT ALL CAN BE MANIPULATED irregardless of this REAL & VALUABLE label.

  • @TheHolySpirit My main point is, is that the LAYPERSON (which is most people) aren't going to be AHEAD OF THE GAME.  Just simply lead like Donkeys with a Carrot stick dangling in front of their faces. When enough people merge/emerge into a Market they'll pull the strings accordingly.

  • @TheHolySpirit Not telling you not too invest.... go ahead... just don't be so naive as to think that what's real and valuable today will have comparable value down the road (if so desired). Virtually everything seems like a roller coaster. Go ahead and invest -- I don't care... just stop convincing people they'll be safe here or there when the REAL EVIDENCE indicates nothings SAFE if the powers that be choose it not to be.

  • @greg12145 Like I said if you want evidence look back over the last 5,000 years or so. It is the ONLY consistent form of money in existence. Bar none. Maybe space aliens will arrive tomorrow with a few hundred thousand tonnes of gold and silver, I dunno, but I very much doubt it. It's not about making an "investment" as you seem to think. It's about protecting one's wealth / labour / energy until such a time when that store of wealth / labour / energy can be turned into something else.

  • @TheHolySpirit Not knocking Gold and Silver... just pointing out that those commodities/elements/etc. will go up and down in value during your lifetime -- that's all. Maybe 5,000 years... not sure about ancient texts and their validity (and monuments and etc.).... my current research seems to indicate that things may not be so ANCIENTLY (ACCURATELY) RECORDED (as said by such). Maybe my thoughts may change... but mounting evidence seems to indicate otherwise at this point.

  • @TheHolySpirit So is Ancient knowledge, as reliable/accurate as the 9/11official fable/made for TV production. Is Ancient knowledge/texts/etc... as reliable as what we see in today's world (where alot of things get faked to appear one way when something else altogether REALLY HAPPENED at the time, or is happening). Sorry, you can't reference (accurately) events of 5,000 years ago any more accurately than the 9/11 official storyline -- meaning it could all be bogus!.

  • @greg12145 No .. corruption and NO ACCOUNTABILITY got us into this mess. END FIAT CURRENCY AND MAKE SOUND MONEY based on precious metals, natural resources, and other tangible assets, END FRACTIONAL LENDING, and END PRIVATELY OWNED CENTRAL BANKS. After that hang a few politicians for TREASON and put a few bankers and traders in jail for FRAUD after taking away their toys and mansions that were obtained through white collar crime and we'll see them start to act differently real quick.

  • @mbonter1 That's what I was implying all along (and it's more complex than what you wrote or the alternate smugs lead you to believe)..... at least you gave a reasoned response, and not simply a SELL JOB into other markets/industries/commodities­/etc (as simply moving into another area market /etc. won't solve anything..... what a world web EH! Seems like it's always been about corruption of some kind though!

  • @mbonter1 That would most certainly be a step in the right direction. But natural resources and precious metals are finite: is there enough to go around? Also wouldn't this system still be socially darwinistic, in that there will still be impoverished people all over the world? Wouldn't it make more sense to have a system where everything is available to everyone, where the outdated idea of money to purchase resources is finally realized as a detriment to the human species?

  • @StarvinLeeMarvin You forgot "tangible assets". What it comes down to is comparing economic/monetary systems. If you're proposing an "everybody shares" type of system it's tantamount to socialism or communism which has failed throughout history as it breeds leaches/couch potatoes who have no motivation to get out and make something of their lives. I'm not opposed to a safety net that ensures those less fortunate guaranteed shelter, food, and health care.

  • @mbonter1 What about an economy based on resource management and technology, where every hungry child has enough to eat and we ALL have access to clean air, water, and shelter? No longer do we have the need to work irrelevant, mindless, meaningless jobs that contribute nothing to society just to make money to eat on, and we all take care of each other and the planet.

    Anyway, just a thought...

    The one thing we can all agree on is that the Fed and FIAT currency needs to go!

  • @StarvinLeeMarvin Further to my last post.. a purely socialistic or communistic system also breeds concentration of power among the few who are controlling the purse strings ie: government/dictators. No thanks. The best system in history IS capitalism but right now that's been hijacked so there is no accountability and corporations are in bed with government which is fascism. Demand accountability and regulation agencies to enforce the laws on the books and the mess goes away.

  • @mbonter1 ha capitalism.In the end leads to centralized power and then fascism.When u have the lead in time in a market or cost to enter a market is massive.You will end up with monopolies,then price fixing,then getting "buddies" in power to do the corp wishes.That what capitalism is doing to the USA and most other frist world nations today.

    Just look at the GOP race each guy got a sugur daddy billionar supporting them and that wha will happen and excepted in a true capitalism form.

  • @StarvinLeeMarvin Ultimately there are no "free rides". No matter which system you use people are going to have to work jobs because the goods that the public demands aren't just going to create themselves out of thin air. Yes we can agree that the privately owned so called "federal" reserve and fiat currency need to go. We're getting somewhere! :) Re: Greece the people must throw out their government, hold them accountable, and make them fear the people rather than banksters!

  • @overlogg Right an ounce of Gold is an ounce of Gold.... what does change is it's VALUE! When enough people play it'll simply be manipulated against them!

  • @greg12145

    Also, it doesn't need to be used AS CURRENCY, it just needs to be a reference point FOR CURRENCY.

    Gold & Silver NEVER CHANGE. 1 Oz today is still 1 Oz tomorrow.

    Still beautiful, still useful, still has value & never lets you down as it is REAL.

    What does change is the "funny money" that humans perceive to have value, so get your head out of your ass, do some research, then try to educate others.

    Or just watch your net worth get chopped in 1/2 or more, your choice.

  • @overlogg

    Anyone realizes that if banks go bankrupt and we get rid of debt base system there is not going to be any money for Social security welfare etc not just in Greece but everywhere else . But especially Greece with 52 yr old retirement age ,social system of welfare and absolutely nothing to show for it :) good luck people

    if u do not have your own land and way of survival u r toast

  • @overlogg Silver is valued in debt notes... lol. Just use your signature it has unlimited value. No need for anarchy.

  • @dw13371

    "Silver is valued in debt notes."

    For now....

    Silver has much more value than what the debt notes of today portend.

  • @overlogg And what good is silver? Gold and silver are only artificially valuable, they have no actual use.

  • @theguruofreason

    Are you trolling?

    Silver has no value?

    It is the number #1 element in all new patents on the planet.

    The military is using bandages with nano silver particles in them, they are even using them in socks & clothing!!

    Cellphones, laptops, pc's, cameras ect ect ect would even exist without it.

    Clearly, Silver is far more important than you could ever understand..

    Without silver you could not even be surfing the web typing this message.

    Study up...

  • @overlogg the value of gold and silver is just as fake.

    the only thing of real value that isn't just valuable because we humans think something is shiny is food and water.

  • @facepalmsociety15

    Clearly the value of silver is FAKE...meaning it is undervalued!!!

    Would you wake up and do some research on the subject before coming in with your worthless comments?

    Silver is not important cause it is shiny, it is critical to modern day society in so many ways I could not even begin to explain...

    It is USED IN EVERYTHING!!!

  • @overlogg Invest in food and water. As you can't drink or eat Silver or Gold but can be traded if needed.

    Yes its called the debt based monetary system and you are right, and we need to stand up now and say NO NO NO we don't want to apart of this bastard of a system, and we don't consent to this insidious way of enslaving and bankrupting nations.

    Peace to you.

  • @thegroove2000

    Anyone stackign silver already has enough food and water ;)

    They are usually wise like that...

    Your comments are spot on...I don't consent...

    Spread the word and peace to you my friend.

  • @overlogg Thanks my fellow human and i hope we can stick together and hopefully get all the youtube folks to meet in there areas and make plans for a mass no consent agenda, and pay and do NOTHING!!!!! don't go to work, pay no bills, mortgages, no taxes, close back accounts, LAWFULL NON VIOLENT REBELLION!!!!!!

    The end is near for the Global Elites.

  • @thegroove2000 Im not allowed to vote so I am telling you that I like your comment very much! you tube blocked me from voting because i always liked videos like this one.

  • @annettekessler orrr cheers thats appreciated. We can do this we really can, but we have to have an game plan and stick together regardless of our differences.

  • @annettekessler Youtube did no such thing but way to go being paranoid

  • @thegroove2000 All together now. Well done that man.

  • Good! Power to the people!!!

  • Could someone explain this to me--are they supporting the continuation of public goods, social programs, etc. while protesting having to pay for these, or are they just championing the end of paying for these programs?

  • @whackybarbiedoll To start with , you must know that Greece never had the social programs( public goods?) as the rest of Europe. The unemployment benefit is very low( it does not follow the salary line, like in France or the UK) and for a few months only, then there is no RMI ( revenue minimum d`insertion of France) nor the council flats of the UK. The little that the Greeks received , it was taken from them. People stopped paying the subway when it doubled its price.

  • Impressive video.

  • Think that's the way to go.Just old fasion protests won't o much.I'ts like mental masturbation,people come,scream a little then they go home,or maybe they fight a bit with cops.At the end nothing is done.With "I DON'T PAY" type of action people can hurt the system badly as for them-money makes the world go round.

  • The Greeks don't want no freaks.

  • /watch?v=MXSwZw7LvEU&feature=c­hannel_video_title

    SCHAPELLE CORBY IS INNOCENT

  • brillant 

  • This video is about making the world a free place to live in /watch?v=rvDKTRgoSS8 we can do it, but No to NWO and No to goverment control of our lives, but people need to love each other and live in harmony.....no more wars, please.

  • "WWJD?"

  • End slavery now!!!!

  • @Thyalwaysseek ok. nah seriously i agree slavery is fucked.

    research permaculture food forest, build one and enjoy the literal fruits of your labor. once set up little work is needed as it is a self sustaining ecosystem.

  • Bank executives are resigning all over the world ! In Google type "bank resigns" for a list

  • One important thing this global movement MUST hold is "We no longer settle for crumbs! We want it all. Peace Love Unity Truth

    Best wishes

  • Thank you people of earth!! This just made my day:)) I don't care what anyone says or fears, this change, this revolution is a beautiful sight!! Yeah - Don't pay, It's already all OURS:)))

  • That will be one Drachma please....

  • Come to Australia, ppl have 'not been paying' for public transport for ages, its so bad that they have now employed a police force to make sure that ppl do pay.

  • Erect Nipples! Goosies all over! We are the 99.9 percent! Finally we can SEE

  • Sorry what is the point of this movement?

    Certaly you dont hope that people are going to get goods and services for free? because no one works for free, than the only way to this legitmily is to go back into slavery.

    And that is clearly not the way to go.

  • @rodrigodet money ius slavery do soem research man money is ur master andu are its slave but to u sheep money makes the world turn

  • @kseltl The only awser have to that is "What?!"

    What research?

    What slavery?

    Come on, draw me a map where the starting point is money and it leads to slavery.

  • @rodrigodet jesus attacked a temple and overturned the tables of money changer who are money changers the original bankers who came up with the story that jew were slaves of egypt and that money they were offerign woudl save and set them free from slavery when al lit does is force u to jobs and make thigns for those very money changers while they enjoy them asu make them for them

  • @kseltl Your either a troll or a moron.

  • @rodrigodet agreed

  • @philthy122 How do you know that they are lazy and unwilling to work? Sounds like somebody has been watching too much TeeVee™.

    But anyway, you sound very keen to defend the *real* parasites who would happily see you and your family starve to death or suffer napalm attacks, cluster bomb mutilation or manifold other creative means of slow suffering merely to make a few quid/bucks/euros. That's very sad.

    You really should look up Max Keiser on the Greek crisis and his reports from Ireland.

  • @philthy122 But anyway, you evidently aren't aware of the role that Goldman Sachs played in this unfolding saga because if you did, you would know why the people of Greece are so pissed off.

  • @MOLEFANGS Is Goldman Sach responsible for making Greek society lazy, unwilling to work and unable to live with in its means? Or is it 'guilty' of using the market forces to take advantage stupidity?

  • @TheTruePooka Yes, that would be exactly my logic. Natural selection at work i would call it.

  • Obviously majority of commenters are not aware how this crisis was orchestrated by Goldman Sachs and Greek finance minister and other government officials in 2002 in a scam how to rob and sell Greece. Greeks didn't apply for those loans. They are victims of money lenders and crook politicians.

  • @philthy122 You probably heard the expression, 'letting the cat out of the bag', then? It's the same thing. Poke is an old English word for a bag and it refers to buying young pigs in bags at markets.

  • fuck you i wont do what you tell me, fuck you i wont do what you tell me. RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE.

  • Ou alors : "on a déjà donné"

  • "We're here tonight to take all money and destroy it. It will rain worthless blood money onto your putrid souls. Tonight we will watch money commit suicide." - Dethklok.

  • Ok, people in the EU: Why in the hell are we giving money to Greece? We are pouring hundreds of billions of euros to them, and this is the response from the people?

    Lets not pay.

  • @bary1234 Nobody is giving money to Greece, this money is just another loan and goes directly to german and other banks.

  • @YouManIII You dont seriously think any of it is ever coming back?

  • @bary1234 if I understand you correctly, there is a collateral. And for every indebted country, collateral are people, real estate, public sector and resources. Greece will be sold out.

  • This works if these "I dont pay" people also say "I dont need to get paid" as they go to work.

    And pigs fly, eh?

  • I'm sorry, I don't understand why these people are vandalizing and stealing from their public transportation systems.

  • Unless you're willing to apply this mode of thinking to private corporations, you're actually worsening your position. This will just help governments privatize the transportation sector entirely.

  • I'm sorry here, I honestly love Greece and most the Greeks I've met have being wonderful people, but isn't most of these problems because most you just won't pay your taxes?

  • @dshbjk you dont need to be sorry for your ignorance

  • @ThePruttmaster Yeah, ok, way to show someone they're wrong. Don't try to give me any idea of how I'm wrong or being misinformed, nah just throw and ad hom my way. FFS you don't want to try yourself you could've just linked to somewhere pointing out why I'm wrong.

    There's these things called question marks. They let the reader know when the previous sentence was an enquiry and not a statement.

  • @dshbjk had nothing to do with showing your wrong , just fed up with people apologizing before their questions.. Ad Hom? I dont think so , Ignorance is not a bad thing its simply lacking knowledge on a certain subject You are the one questioning therefor you are ignorant. watch these for starters ...

    youtube.com/watch?v=lUpZhhbKUB­o

    youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0h­s

  • @dshbjk Most won't pay their taxes because they can not afford them...

  • so cool!

  • There's no benefit in not paying the wrong people. Target the multinationals & oil companies. It's not the governments. Stop buying their products. Target the ones who control the governments.

  • Where are the black-booted thugs with the batons and the guns and the mace? So good to see people freely demonstrating. More power to them.

  • But anyway, me and Proxy liked the vid!

  • This video has been blocked, censored, here in germany!

  • We need this in the UK, our prices of transport are ridiculous!

  • :) Nice

  • When a few are having everything, it is time to share with those who don't.

  • so elegant!

  • We should stop using money at all. Lets establish a date.

  • We need 20 "libretines" to book flight, show up at the TSA body scan, Strip Down, bend over, spread cheeks, and say: "How do you like that Smile, "Officer?" "We have our Brown Eye on you now!" YT

  • This is the wrong name for this movement. It shouldn't be I DON'T PAY. It should be called: WE ALREADY PAID

  • So, how long do you suppose these fascist thugs will take to cause the kind of destruction in the rest of the world that they have already caused in Spain and particuilarly Greece?

  • LOVE IT!! There are many that need to wake ASAP and this movement does exactly that!

    I for one shall be supporting.

    STOP GLOBALIZATION/SUPPORT COMMUNITIZATION... 

  • Down with the rich leeches. Stop protecting them and alllowing them to suck all of our money and everything else.

  • WHOOOOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

  • funny...

    spain: people climbed over the glass gates

    sweden: people opened the gates, and held the glass gates open with strips

    flow of people spain: 10+ sec pr person

    flow of people in sweden: <1 sec pr person

  • Good to see those cable ties which the police worldwide have misappropriated as handcuffs are being used constructively.

  • At last !!! FANTASTIC !!!

  • yes let's make everything free...check out the free world charter .org and sign if you want a free world

  • TANSTAAFL

  • The people of Greece walked blindly and willingly into the mountain of debt they now find themselves. Sure the global financial crisis is hurting them more than many other western countries but when the government sector employed over 1/3 of the working population and everyone lived expensive lifestyles on credit, the piper eventually needed to be paid. Should countries who's population lived responsibly and with in their means have to pay for those who did not, without condition? IMHO, no way.

  • @philthy122 A very shallow view of the global banking scam. You blame the victims instead of the perpetrators.

    There are not more than a handful of people alive today who were not born into the fiduciary fiat money system which, if you care to investigate, is designed to syphon wealth upwards by multiplex means - interest, tax, inflation.

    The Greek debt was the result of them being sold a pig in a poke, as they say in the UK. All well explained by Max Keiser.

    What they suffer will befall you.

  • @MOLEFANGS Oh so the Greeks are the victims of their own stupidity...how dumb do you have to be not to see that 2/3 of a work force cannot support 1/3 of an over paid work force plus all other govt spending AND expect to retire 15 years ahead of any other western country. Interest, tax and inflation are not new concepts; and yes banks have leant money whilly-nilly to people who should not have been leant money. And it is these tards who now wave 'don't pay' signs; they bare some responsibility.

  • @MOLEFANGS Oh, and i have no idea what exactly a 'pig in a poke' is; i believe it may actually be an american term.

    Although it does sound like something the ancient Greeks probably did at parties.

  • @philthy122 thats because you are a cunt

  • @0TheChinaSyndrome0 thank you; i'd rather be considered a cunt than be a fucktard such as yourself.

  • You should have called the movement;

    "I already paid."

  • @TheTruePooka unfortunately Pooka; in the case of Greece they probably didn't.

  • The "i don't pay" that really hurts is the closing of the toll booths on major roads and on major holidays! That gets attention. RISE UP people the world is coming to an end as we know it!!

  • All the peoples of the world should join together in a worldwide revolution against corrupt goverrnents that are impoverishing and enslaving everyone.

  • this is so powerfull :D

  • almost cried....beautiful!!!!!

    

  • We have enough resources on this planet to feed,clothe,house,and educate every human being on the planet.All these things should be free period.

  • @ihatesheeple Thank you.

  • @ihatesheeple May I quote you on facebook?

  • @ihatesheeple How larger a slave class do you want to supply you with those goods and services?

  • @evensgrey With the rise in technology we now have machines that are capable of harvesting entire farms automatically. The only problem I can see and that usually occurs when replacing human workers with machines is the loss in jobs. I'm not an expert on the subject since having 'free' anything boggles my mind. Imagine a world where food and water cost almost nothing if not free? Crime would drop substantially since most crimes are committed over resources and hunger would no longer be an issue.

  • @Vilemk0 PPl need to start growing their own food, even if it's small amts.  anyone can grow tomatoes in a pot! ditto for lettuce, spinach, etc. Get a few chickens, you'll have eggs - I'm dead serious here, b/c we can't trust most of the food we have to buy - GMO'd, sprayed with insecticides (poisons), every little bit helps! trade, barter with friends who can grow what you can't ... Use bikes, ride shares, whatever way we can choke the beast - it all counts!!

  • @cheena1ca There isn't enough space for most people to have their own room for growing food and owning farm animals. I live in apartments so that option is out of the question, although I do grow tomatoes out on my deck. (I live on the third floor of my apartments though.) The point is that we have enough wasted space currently used for grazing massive amounts of farm animals and other shit when we should be using it for agriculture / specifically growing food.

    We could feed the world for free.

  • @evensgrey Fucked up my sentence structure in this part,

    "I'm not an expert on the subject since having 'free' anything boggles my mind, but imagine a world where food and water cost almost nothing if not free?"

    Is what I meant to say. (Slight diff.) xD

  • @ihatesheeple Exactly. Great point. I've been saying for ages we have enough why are there still people in poverty. We live in an industrialised age with technology that allows us to make more than ever before with as little work as possible, but people still don't have enough money to buy the stuff that THEY themselves are making. Instead all the resources go to those at the top. Damn, some humans can be so pointlessly selfish.

  • This is ridculous.

    Neither the banks, nor the Germans are "impoverishing" Greece.

    Greece has run some of the highest deficits on earth (over 12% of GPD) which means they have been paying too many government workers too much money & are broke.

    For example, the Greek subway workers - government unionized- make on average 80K per year & can retire with 95% of their last years pay at age 50!!!

    This is impossible to sustain!

    banks aren't impoverishing Greece, the unions are!

  • @dgl1962 Please don't fall prey to media and political manipulation of your mind! Greeces deficit was distorted on purpose it was 9.2% and skyrocketed to 15% in 2 months?There are wheelings and dealings going on that we have no idea about the only thing I know is that people are starving and losing their jobs just so some fat cats can get fatter!Take a look at the USAs deficit or Germanys its in the trillions!Does Greece's economy really effect the worlds economy? Its just scare tactics!!

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  • @dgl1962 Make the same claim about America and I'll know you're full of shit. The unions had nothing to do with wrecking the economy here.

  • @TheTruePooka Hell, the Unions are strong in Germany and their economy is the only one that's doing well in the EU. Strong unions mean a strong middle class and a strong middle class means a strong economy.

  • @BrotherAlpha you know the working class are only there to keep the middle class in line lol.

  • @TheTruePooka Really? How about the airline industry, Steel, Automotive & textiles?

    Those are dinosaurs thanks to union greed.

    The deficits wrecked the economy in Greece, not "bankers"

  • @dgl1962 @dgl1962 The auto industry accounts for roughly 3% of the U.S. economy and employs less than 1 million workers. Airline 500k.

    Thre's 154 million employed in the U.S.

    According to your derp logic unions that account for less than 5% of the workers crashed the economy, not the trillions of dollars the Banks gambled with and mishandled.

    It's because of foolish people like you that this is just going to happen all over again.

  • @TheTruePooka Of course the auto industry along with the airlines have few members now, THE UNIONS PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS!!

    Look up how many Americans & businesses belonged to a union in the 40's & 50's and then see how many belong to one now...

    Logic like yours will continue driving companies out of the US to nations whose policies aren't hostile to them.

  • @dgl1962 The statistics I quoted are from before the collapse when those industries were doing well.

    And Reagan broke the Airline unions back in the 80's when Reagan fired them for striking. That was the end of serious union power in America. This collapse is all on the politicians/ Bank/ Stock Exchange lobbyists.

    Next time learn some history before you speak.

    Thanks for doing your part to destroy America. That was sarcasm, btw. "Thanks" isn't the word I was thinking.

  • @TheTruePooka Airlines, firemen, teachers & police should NEVER strike!

    Fire all of them if they do!

    The heaviest unionized countries have the worst deficits, Greece is one of them.

  • @dgl1962 "Airlines, firemen, teachers & police should NEVER strike!"

    Yes, they should always be given the best wages and benefits because the job they do is so important. I agree.

  • @TheTruePooka I'm not quite sure I follow. You obviously think these positions are important. But are you saying they should never have to strike in the first place?

  • @synchronium24 That's because his original statement is so frustratingly dumb. It's like saying; "You should never let your kids get hurt." cont-

  • @TheTruePooka cont - which while it sounds sensible on the surface ignores all the complicated intricacies of raising a child in our society. Can you imagine if they made;

    "Letting a kid get hurt" a criminal offense based on this logic? Without taking any of that into consideration?

    My comment is unclear because the only way to address a stupid statement like his that appeals to emotion (in just a few words) is to strike back with an equally stupid appeal to emotion.

  • @TheTruePooka Thanks for the clarification. I hereby declare your unworthy adversary, dgl1962, bi-trolling.

  • @dgl1962 "The heaviest unionized countries have the worst deficits,"

    Correlation does not = Causation.

  • @TheTruePooka Then what did cause the huge deficits in Greece if not overpaying & over employing unions in the public sector?

    I guess you don't have a neat little cliche' for that question, huh?

  • @dgl1962 Unrestrained borrowing & wasteful spending, cheap lending and failure to implement financial reforms.

  • @TheTruePooka I'd say more but f*cking youtube is limiting us to 191 characters. That's not enough room to take a piss in let along explain Greece's financial crisis.

  • @TheTruePooka "Unrestrained borrowing & wasteful spending"

    "failure to implement financial reforms"

    No kidding.

  • @dgl1962 But Greece's issues are incredibly complicated. Basically they've been irresponsible on numerous levels since joining the E.U.

  • @TheTruePooka Pls clarify for me - when u say 'they', u do mean their govt. - not their people, right?

  • @cheena1ca I know their gov has. I'm not sure how involved the people are with their government.

  • @dgl1962 And the most heavily Unionized countries are mostly doing the best. But if you read the Conservative WSJ you'd know that.

    Give it up. I've debunked all your claims with facts.

  • @TheTruePooka Let's see, if correlation doesn't mean causation, then we shouldn't believe that the federal reserve causes inflation and debases the currency.

    Right?

  • @dgl1962 Correlation = correlation. Causation = causation. If you see a correlation you study it further. If you discover it's a cause then it is a cause. (shrug) not sure why this bothers you.

  • @TheTruePooka So, by me responding to your Greek union supporting, illogical answers, that means "it bothers me"?

  • @dgl1962 "Look up how many Americans & businesses belonged to a union in the 40's & 50's and then see how many belong to one now..."

    Yes. Back in America's boom time, Unions were a lot more prevalent. When the Unions started getting crushed, the middle class collapsed with them.

    You are basically proving your argument is wrong.

  • @BrotherAlpha Typical reverse analysis.

    Unions crushed businesses which caused the middle class to get crushed.

    That's like saying "putting bars on windows makes crime levels go up", or "flies cause garbage"

    Unions crushed the automobile industry with garbage quality which enabled the Japanese to eat our lunch (they still are).

    Steelworkers unions allowed the same shift of industry.

    Same goes for textiles.

    As long as the average voter in the herd thinks like you, we're doomed.

  • @dgl1962 "Unions crushed the automobile industry with garbage quality..."

    Union members don't design the cars or chose which ones are built. You can't blame the Pinto, the Pacer, or the Gremlin on Unions.

    "... which enabled the Japanese to eat our lunch (they still are)."

    Two of the five biggest auto manufacturers are American. The others are one Japanese, one German, and one South Korean. GM had record profits this year.

  • @dgl1962 As a Business Process Management pro, I can tell you that unions and workers are NOT responsible for quality and strategic decisions. Top management and owners are. Your words are typical blame I hear from incompetent and vastly overpaid top managers who just point fingers to workers, who are just overpaid expense for them.

    As long as the average voter in the herd thinks like you, we're doomed.

  • YES THE EVIL CABALIST SYSTEN IS ON ITS WAY TO COLLAPSE. EXCELLENT!

    SOLIDARITY FROM AROUND THE WORLD.

  • @glower125 I know, isn't it terrific?

    We will all live like those in the workers paradise in Cuba & the early Soviet Union!

    I cannot wait to spend 4 hours in a line to buy stale bread & toilet paper from a government store!

    We all know that the government is terrific at delivering products & services, like the public skoolz, the DMV, AMTRAC, the pentagon & the post office!!

    You're a moron.

  • @dgl1962 "the government is terrific at delivering products & services, "

    erm who is the moron? tell me again please? you fucking idiot

  • @0TheChinaSyndrome0 I was being sarcastic in my response to "glower125".

    

  • Makes me so proud - to be one of 'them'. I Don't Pay

  • Solidarity from Canada. Won't be long now my friends

  • If the politicians and banksters had fear that they might be dragged to court then execution then real change will happen. Skipping out on paying for your activity just make you a common thief...

  • @WeeblesRebellion Yes, Nazis always put fear into their intended victims first.

  • I'm all for overthrowing and replacing our oppressors. But not paying for public transportation is just stupid and accomplishing NOTHING. They will just laugh...

  • Great idea, almost think could eventually work in the USA especially in NYC. Even with the militarization of the public trans system in America, something like this could catch on in high concentrated population areas like NYC and Bay Area. Chicago even.

  • Yo no Pago!

    I Dont Pay!

    Je Ne paie pas!

    Non pago!

    Jag vill inte betala !

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